tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post1151124049579821274..comments2024-03-28T00:31:13.472-07:00Comments on <em>Archimago's Musings</em>: MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio (HRA)?Archimagohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-51523397852167871932015-05-17T08:46:10.802-07:002015-05-17T08:46:10.802-07:00I haven't seen ANY ringing in the audible rang...I haven't seen ANY ringing in the audible range in 44.1/48kHz files yet, except when artificial signals like squarewaves and needle pulses, that do not exist in any recording, are used.<br /><br />I just did the following experiment with a recording with varified and relevant HF up to 42kHz.<br /><br />Took a recording made on 192/24 and downsampled it with a known good converter to 48/24 (solderdudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00391699689539064581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-69851083358284436622015-05-15T23:47:52.578-07:002015-05-15T23:47:52.578-07:00@Solderdude. I don't think we are disagreeing ...@Solderdude. I don't think we are disagreeing here. I agree that the recording process is a large influence in the audio "chain". The point I was trying to make was strictly in the context of arguments over the different resolutions of digital audio - which was after all the original point in the author's article. Leaving aside the issue of recording and assuming a well recordedDeepthoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929770196858183164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-3879018206318359112015-05-10T00:36:52.851-07:002015-05-10T00:36:52.851-07:00While I do agree transducers (recording and playba...While I do agree transducers (recording and playback) are bigger bottlenecks than electronics are, the fact that even with decent setups (not necessarily $$$$) one can easily hear substantial differences in recording quality tells me that recording quality is the biggest bottleneck.<br />Some recordings sound really poor while others can sound heavenly and everything in between, even regardless solderdudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00391699689539064581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-78795594625999326622015-05-09T21:52:19.968-07:002015-05-09T21:52:19.968-07:00I feel that all this argument over the audibility ...I feel that all this argument over the audibility of one high-res' format over another sort of misses a bigger point. As I've hinted at in another post on this blog, the biggest influence / limiter in the audio chain is the speakers. In fact everything in a digital playback system after the D to A conversation is going to influence the nature of the playback in some way (note, I didn'Deepthoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929770196858183164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-27697641418544310802015-02-06T14:21:45.220-08:002015-02-06T14:21:45.220-08:00Re: Dr. Oohashi, you might find this HA thread ab...Re: Dr. Oohashi, you might find this HA thread about his curious body of work interesting....he's gone quite, um, *far afield* at times. http://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?showtopic=102670StevenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08457350132948312910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-64720052325624679342015-02-04T14:47:00.478-08:002015-02-04T14:47:00.478-08:00Good discussion, and I loved the referenced articl...Good discussion, and I loved the referenced article in the LA Weekly. Thanks.<br /><br />One of the reasons I was pleased to ditch vinyl was having to flip the damn LP over after 20 minutes. You get into a nice relaxed state of mind enjoying some great music, then 'thump', 'thump', 'thump' as the stylus bumps up against the end groove. The bliss of being able to listen Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-3549876388247764892015-02-03T14:02:39.861-08:002015-02-03T14:02:39.861-08:00The idea of the 'Oohashi effect' is so sed...The idea of the 'Oohashi effect' is so seductive that once it is described, only the most hardened sceptic could doubt it. Everything fits: the horribly restricted, brick-wall filtered, frequency response that must surely leave our senses gasping, and then the restoration of the higher frequencies that wash over us like ionised air, refreshing us through every pore. It just *has* to be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-16195157755326621912015-02-03T00:36:42.373-08:002015-02-03T00:36:42.373-08:00Oh. Thanks for the link! This adds another dimensi...Oh. Thanks for the link! This adds another dimension to this whole Oohashi convoluted story...<br /><br />So these high frequencies are supposed to be stimulating other parts of the body (or even the brain directly?) to create "enhanced" alpha rhythms. I'll vote for the pineal then since that's supposed to be the "seat of the soul" :-).<br />Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-44313016013407107052015-02-03T00:32:53.946-08:002015-02-03T00:32:53.946-08:00"Better recordings are really what some (cari..."Better recordings are really what some (caring) music lovers need, perhaps even at the expense of bigger file sizes."<br /><br />Yup, I can go with that :-).<br /><br />Thanks for the note Frans.Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-54040393016967782582015-02-03T00:31:49.708-08:002015-02-03T00:31:49.708-08:00Thanks for the note John. Don't know if others...Thanks for the note John. Don't know if others have seen this!?<br />Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-41164058109818254362015-02-02T08:05:44.746-08:002015-02-02T08:05:44.746-08:00I just thought I would add one little point, with ...I just thought I would add one little point, with specific implications Pono and Michael Fremer's understanding of that whereof he speaks. Even if Oohashi's hypersonic effect is to be taken seriously, it doesn't occur when sound is only played into the ears -that on Oohashi's own follow-up study<br />http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006899305019499<br /><br />Itshoddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18093311934905409054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-32511538926948199572015-02-01T03:15:56.822-08:002015-02-01T03:15:56.822-08:00Great article! Always enjoy your balanced and fact...Great article! Always enjoy your balanced and fact based views. For some reason this site is showing as infected with malware by Bitdefender. Could be a false alarm but thought I would give you a heads up. ... Sent from my iPad Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254383630896410844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-44620732827467099832015-01-31T06:04:00.220-08:002015-01-31T06:04:00.220-08:0024/96 arguably is a better format than 16/44, ther...24/96 arguably is a better format than 16/44, there doesn't seem to be any argument about it.<br /><br />The question is how many people (and recordings) and listeners would actually benefit from this larger filetype.<br /><br />About the many tests/studies that have been done over the years:<br /><br />I have a lot of questions with tests done by both scientists, audiophiles and wannabees.<solderdudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00391699689539064581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-1452618071993708792015-01-30T09:15:56.939-08:002015-01-30T09:15:56.939-08:00I actually made some comments there...someone said...I actually made some comments there...someone said Vinyl wouldn't degrade at all with High quality gear, I said it wasn't possible and actually had to refute him with an old study from the golden age of Lps. I don't get some people, Vinyl needs a stylus to work by contact just that actually degrades the sound in every listening even if todays turntables are amazing in terms of Jourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04757715128314817536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-34455406070293286562015-01-30T08:11:30.723-08:002015-01-30T08:11:30.723-08:00You know, there was a time when I would be all exc...You know, there was a time when I would be all excited about high-resolution downloads like those Linns! Alas, I think I downloaded one of them in December when I got notice off their mailing list and forgot to even check thereafter.<br /><br />Having said this, Linn does have some fantastic classical recordings I really like. Alas, my main audio staple is still in the rock/pop/jazz/vocal genres Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-38030095677439500102015-01-30T08:03:22.745-08:002015-01-30T08:03:22.745-08:00Great! Thanks for the link Kirk!
Yup, lots of sma...Great! Thanks for the link Kirk!<br /><br />Yup, lots of small portable audio being sold these days with just mediocre sound at best... No way these little speakers convey decent frequency response or resolution ability. Sadly, it's also these devices that highly compressed masterings are targeted to.<br /><br />Many of them are unable to play loud and a nicely dynamic mastering will require Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-51385416742219315952015-01-30T07:52:36.841-08:002015-01-30T07:52:36.841-08:00Thanks for the thoughtful comment Rafael.
Yeah, I...Thanks for the thoughtful comment Rafael.<br /><br />Yeah, I have wondered whatever happened to NwAVguy as well. Some excellent discussions from the engineering perspective; I've certainly missed that as well.<br /><br />I still collect vinyl but like you said, not with religious fervor nor belief that it represents some kind of ultimate sound quality. There's a recent article about the Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-69841484937937532242015-01-30T06:54:53.987-08:002015-01-30T06:54:53.987-08:00As always excellent article!!! My 2 cents on the t...As always excellent article!!! My 2 cents on the topic.<br /><br />Objective accuracy: Nothing to say here ... the numbers are there although some my challenge them<br /><br />Audible: Here is the real pickle. In December Linn were offering the possibility of downloading samples for free. I downloaded: 44/16, 96/24, 192/24 versions of the same song. I did some random listening and I COULD NOT Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06543184630229216387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-3818038901034750242015-01-30T02:32:55.297-08:002015-01-30T02:32:55.297-08:00I very much appreciate your honest comments on thi...<br />I very much appreciate your honest comments on this issue, something that I cover regularly on my website as well. And I strongly agree with the conclusion to your article:<br /><br />"If companies, consumers, reviewers, and the press unite to advocate for and get us better sounding albums that can actually benefit from high resolution instead of the crappy, loud, typical mastering &kirkmchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440232855814494434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-30342891353674733212015-01-30T02:20:49.976-08:002015-01-30T02:20:49.976-08:00Really nice article Archimago.
I enjoy my Hi-Res f...Really nice article Archimago.<br />I enjoy my Hi-Res files usually 24/96 or 24/48 just because that way I don't have that nagging feeling about losing some details in my future hardware updates, but I admit I don't notice any difference with blind tests. <br />As for Pono I think the way it was marketed was full of BS, audio "nirvana" inside a car? I'm always happy to have Jourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04757715128314817536noreply@blogger.com