tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post2006064735075213350..comments2024-03-18T20:47:45.936-07:00Comments on <em>Archimago's Musings</em>: INTERNET BLIND TEST: MQA Core Decoding vs. Standard Hi-Res AudioArchimagohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-76673365161618476242020-11-13T18:29:02.987-08:002020-11-13T18:29:02.987-08:00Hi Peter,
Here are the results:
Part I: Procedure
...Hi <em>Peter</em>,<br />Here are the results:<br /><strong>Part I: Procedure</strong><br />http://archimago.blogspot.com/2017/09/mqa-core-vs-hi-res-blind-test-part-i.html<br /><br /><strong>Part II: Core Results</strong><br />http://archimago.blogspot.com/2017/09/mqa-core-vs-hi-res-blind-test-part-ii.html<br /><br /><strong>Part III: Subgroup Analysis</strong><br />http://archimago.blogspot.com/Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-65568499787244309142020-11-12T18:22:40.781-08:002020-11-12T18:22:40.781-08:002020-11-12: Can you give us the link to the final...2020-11-12: Can you give us the link to the final results?<br /><br />ThanksPeterInVanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938376479724287847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-25328314399733403642017-09-11T13:51:55.320-07:002017-09-11T13:51:55.320-07:00Hi Archimago - just read your note on the double s...Hi Archimago - just read your note on the double submissions. Depending on if my first submission on Sept. 5. went through you will have three submissions with the same Linn-Kaber setup in your DB. <br /><br />One from the 5., a second identical one from the 6. where I resubmitted and a third one on the 7. where I asked my partner to listen through the test. She had a different preference with Gimme Nameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16727816762619224207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-19431920728774504242017-09-11T11:35:17.197-07:002017-09-11T11:35:17.197-07:00no news at all? 11 setptember :Pno news at all? 11 setptember :Pmariettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12450542750621823839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-29582309913783875332017-09-06T00:36:33.202-07:002017-09-06T00:36:33.202-07:00Ok resubmitted. Perhaps you'll have me twice n...Ok resubmitted. Perhaps you'll have me twice now in your DB.Gimme Nameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16727816762619224207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-88381203132230608822017-09-05T14:39:38.937-07:002017-09-05T14:39:38.937-07:00Quick question: how do I know if my data was submi...Quick question: how do I know if my data was submitted? I clicked "submit survey" but only see some progress animation of three balls jumping.<br /><br />Thx!Gimme Nameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16727816762619224207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-14784603874453641052017-08-27T06:04:46.736-07:002017-08-27T06:04:46.736-07:00Submitted. Expect expectation bias ;)Submitted. Expect expectation bias ;)SUBIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286857243022976100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-60234827569653948572017-08-15T10:40:32.507-07:002017-08-15T10:40:32.507-07:00Thanks! I had already acquired the lib some time a...Thanks! I had already acquired the lib some time ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-80774821242555755162017-08-14T11:59:59.593-07:002017-08-14T11:59:59.593-07:00My code is here: https://code.videolan.org/mansr/m...My code is here: https://code.videolan.org/mansr/mqa<br />You need to acquire the libbluos_ssc.so file on your own.Mans Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16079233294599701785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-44494850092498247562017-08-14T10:47:02.221-07:002017-08-14T10:47:02.221-07:00I am looking for a solution that uses a lib, prefe...I am looking for a solution that uses a lib, preferable the one from BluOS. I know Mans used that one, but he does not seem to have released his code.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-59254396737352230752017-08-13T13:25:26.692-07:002017-08-13T13:25:26.692-07:00Hi MrA.
Actually, none of the above :-).
It'...Hi MrA.<br /><br />Actually, none of the above :-).<br /><br />It's capture of the output from my Mac and Audirvana+ 3. Latest version when the test was constructed.<br /><br />Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-54990491921424552982017-08-13T02:25:43.926-07:002017-08-13T02:25:43.926-07:00@Archimago,
How did you decode the MQA files? Did ...@Archimago,<br />How did you decode the MQA files? Did you use the decoding lib from BluOS or the Tidal desktop app, or did you capture the output from the Tidal desktop app?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-73782967206110140102017-08-02T07:30:47.468-07:002017-08-02T07:30:47.468-07:00Thanks Derek for the diligence :-).
After decades...Thanks Derek for the diligence :-).<br /><br />After decades of "perfecting" hi-fi equipment, it would not be fun if the assignment ends up being *too* easy! Younger or older, mainstream or upper echelon gear, cloth ear or Golden Ear, I want to see feedback from everyone who enjoys music and can appreciate higher quality reproduction & gear...<br /><br />Folks, take this as a Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-38305639781480492342017-08-02T07:18:52.860-07:002017-08-02T07:18:52.860-07:00Hi SUBIT,
Thanks for the note. It would indeed be ...Hi SUBIT,<br />Thanks for the note. It would indeed be great to spend more time on ADC's as they all have different resolution limits, idiosyncrasies around subtle frequency responses and especially high frequency modulator noise floors.<br /><br />In the real world of course, the number of consumers wanting to buy DACs way outnumber those interested in ADCs. Other than audio engineers who Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-70009794477604395822017-08-02T02:13:33.368-07:002017-08-02T02:13:33.368-07:00I listened carefully on two occasions 12 days apar...I listened carefully on two occasions 12 days apart and using Oppo PM-3 headphones, a Cambridge DacMagic XS and a Win 10 laptop and Foobar with the appropriate USB 2 ASIO driver for the DacMagic. I was sure I heard slight differences. I made notes at both sessions, the 2nd session without refering back to the first set of notes. The two sets of notes largely matched, except that my final hifidezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372959697424443089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-2288198383529052032017-08-01T04:54:58.477-07:002017-08-01T04:54:58.477-07:00Actually it's not only Firefox. I'm listen...Actually it's not only Firefox. I'm listening to it via LMS and Squeezelite and my Odroid XU4Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07890100472678647496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-53051616967007678812017-07-29T23:17:26.093-07:002017-07-29T23:17:26.093-07:00Thanks for your reply. Yes, from this perspective ...Thanks for your reply. Yes, from this perspective the prospect is sensible. <br />I ABXed FLAC vs 150kbps VBR Opus some time ago and at that bitrate the difference was so minute, it was imperceptible to me, even in "hi-fi" headphones such as HD-800, HD-650 and LCD-X, so IMHO MQA is going to fare in similar fashion. <br /><br />I'll try to find suitable DAC for the test in the SUBIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286857243022976100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-90887620744695953992017-07-29T09:09:24.414-07:002017-07-29T09:09:24.414-07:00Is this worthwhile?
IMO. For listening to music o...Is this worthwhile?<br /><br />IMO. For listening to music out there... No. There's just nothing that needs 176/192kHz as I expressed previously:<br />http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2016/06/musings-analysis-is-there-any-value-to.html<br /><br />Having said that, for this MQA test, in order to more closely control the sound of the digital filtering, I did upsample using the kind of filtering Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-51619683475281653852017-07-29T09:04:34.341-07:002017-07-29T09:04:34.341-07:00Hi SUBIT,
Sure, objective folks might have already...Hi SUBIT,<br />Sure, objective folks might have already passed on MQA, and fanboys already love it. At least that's what is said in public. But I think there is still value in providing an anonymous venue and opportunity for everyone to listen for themselves whether they're streaming TIDAL currently or have a decoding DAC. I'm sure there are many out there who don't know what to Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-41323754730842308552017-07-29T08:53:18.993-07:002017-07-29T08:53:18.993-07:00Cool fas42,
Please remember to put in your survey ...Cool fas42,<br />Please remember to put in your survey results!<br />Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-23158252179156436272017-07-29T08:52:41.985-07:002017-07-29T08:52:41.985-07:00Hi Marlene,
Yeah, I've heard that concern befo...Hi Marlene,<br />Yeah, I've heard that concern before as well...<br /><br />Specifically for MQA, the problem is that there really isn't much music out there we can purchase in this encoded format. In fact, other than streaming off TIDAL, 2L is one of the main sites to get the music from.<br /><br />Of course there's the matter of how to do this as transparently as possible which is Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-76018336063711970642017-07-28T23:07:09.586-07:002017-07-28T23:07:09.586-07:00Hi Archimago,
thanks for this test, but I fail to...Hi Archimago,<br /><br />thanks for this test, but I fail to see the point here. <br />Most objective folk already established this MQA is nothing more than a marketing hype. And the fanboys, who won't listen to reason, are going to love it regardless of results of this test. <br />So not sure who can benefit from such endeavour.<br /><br />BTW, I'd love to take part, but as it happens, ISUBIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286857243022976100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-62240352326272141732017-07-28T18:37:29.725-07:002017-07-28T18:37:29.725-07:00Just to say, I've had a listen on straight lap...Just to say, I've had a listen on straight laptop speakers, comparing the piano samples only so far - and it's easy to pick the difference. One is clearly superior, to my ears, and is markedly so on this simple setup.<br /><br />I'll continue comparing, and post my findings - thanks for putting this up!fas42https://www.blogger.com/profile/07931251650965427680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-26928445718521017162017-07-28T15:49:41.694-07:002017-07-28T15:49:41.694-07:00Hi Archimago :)
Thank you for this DBT possibilit...Hi Archimago :)<br /><br />Thank you for this DBT possibility and the work you put into it. I found it very hard to hear differences, whether I listened blind or not blind. Which only shows that a good recording will always sound good, no matter the format (except on vinyl or bad tape).<br /><br />For that reason, I have something to complain about: I would have preferred normal music, tracks Marlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18083938750301843183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-45880043328313165392017-07-28T11:38:29.072-07:002017-07-28T11:38:29.072-07:00Thank you, but ... is all that worthwhile?
As far ...Thank you, but ... is all that worthwhile?<br />As far as I remember you said that going more than 24/96 is a waste of bytes.<br />More: MQA is a widely accepted standard? AFAIK only with TIDAL such material is available, but the albums in MQA are so few!<br />On the contrary with Qobuz Sublime+ you have (quite) one album over two in Hi-Res, at 24/82.2, at 24/96, no more than that.<br />By the Teodoro Marinuccihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02293771086675156578noreply@blogger.com