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| This SMSL unit also does MQA decoding for those who want the feature. Unlike the Douk, this box only has an LED to indicate MQA decoding status but does not tell us the PCM or DSD samplerate. |
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| SMSL PO100 PRO includes a cute HiRes sticker with the JAS logo if you like these things on your boxes... |
The units come in typical cardboard boxes and inside we have the DDC device, 1m lengths of male USB-C to USB-A with the Douk unit having a switchable USB-A/C end and they also include a decent TosLink cable. There's also the multi-lingual manual/pamphlet. The Douk Audio has a 1-year warranty card.
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| The shiny top of the SMSL is quite nice cosmetically though a fingerprint magnet. |
Above we see pictures of the rear "business" end of the devices. They're both conveniently powered by the 5V USB-C input from your computer or streamer and convert the USB audio to S/PDIF Coaxial, S/PDIF TosLink (up to 24/192 PCM and DSD64 DoP), and I²S/I2S/IIS via the male HDMI-A-style physical port up to 32/768 and DSD512 native or DSD256 DoP. The internal USB audio interface for both devices use the high performance 16-core 3rd Gen XMOS XU316 chip. All digital outputs are simultaneously active so you can connect each one to the same DAC and switch inputs to compare sound if desired.
They both adopt the HDMI-style connector for I²S/IIS/I2S data transmission these days using LVDS (low-voltage differential signaling). This is NOT compatible with actual HDMI audio-visual data format that we use for our Bluray players or home theater receivers. This means anything that tries to decode an HDMI A/V signal will not work, including things like fiber optic HDMI cables that have to transcode the electrical data structure. In fact, be cautious and make sure you're not plugging "true" HDMI devices into this port just in case it might cause damage.
The I²S/IIS/I2S (Inter-Integrated Circuit Sound) bus was never intended to be used like this as a multi-feet cable component interface. Other than audiophiles and "high-end" folks doing this, the serial I²S signal was designed by Philips back in 1986 as a way to transmit 2-channel PCM across the inches between chips inside our audio boxes like CD players.
I believe it was PS Audio who introduced the IIS inter-component interface to the audiophile world based on the HDMI connector. The pin-out for the "PS Audio Standard" was released back in 2010 with the PerfectWave Transport, and it looked like this (here's a Paul McGowan video talking about it and the history):
The "core" I²S signal is sent through four differential wire pairs consisting of Serial Data (SDOUT, MSB format for PCM data), the Bitclock (BCK) that synchronizes the data transfer telling the receiver device the samplerate (2 channels x sample rate x bits/sample), the Master Clock (MCLK, not always needed by DAC) is a high-frequency multiple of the samplerate, and the Left/Right Clock (LRCLK, also known as Word Select or Frame Select) tells the receiver device which audio channel the data belongs to. In principle, assuming stable clock performance, jitter across the IIS transmission could/should be low.
As you can see, for the original PS Audio HDMI connector, pin 1 corresponded to SDOUT (data) NEGATIVE and pin 7 corresponds to LRCK (left-right clock) NEGATIVE as well. Without an actual formal I²S-HDMI standard, somewhere along the way, manufacturers like Gustard, Topping, Holo Audio among others decided to offer other configurations with pins 1 and 7 being + (thus inverted from PS Audio), adding an extra wrinkle to an already non-standard interface easily mistaken as something you can plug your computer's HDMI output into!Underneath the box we see this HDMI-pin diagram for the Douk Audio U2 PRO:
This corresponds to the "PS Audio Standard". You can also see how DSD left and right channels are split, and pins 14+15 to signal DSD data.
Having this switch on the SMSL makes it more flexible than the Douk in case you're using a DAC that can only handle one specific pin configuration.
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| Topping DX9 DAC set-up menu with options in red for Douk U2 PRO. Default IIS DSD Flag and IIS MUTE settings are fine. |
[As an aside, I wondered why PS Audio used a -/+ polarity sequence for the SDOUT and LRCK wires? Conventionally, the + then - order makes sense. Also, why is DSD-Right first with the DATA line then further down DSD-Left with LRCLK instead of the other way around since again by convention we typically order Left-then-Right.
Intuitively, the Topping menu's default configuration makes more sense than what PS Audio uses IMO. I wonder, if PS Audio had just selected a more conventional scheme for the polarity across all the differential pairs (notice that BCK and MCLK are still ordered as +/- polarity) back in 2010, would there still be this hassle?
I wondered if the folks at PS Audio had some kind of belief that if they interleaved the polarity between SDOUT/BCK/LRCK/MCLK that this made some kind of sonic difference due to noise or some other mythical audiophile reason?]
The default is a small 24.000MHz +/- 20ppm 5032 SMD active oscillator as seen in the picture. It's replaceable with a 24MHz, 1.8-3.3V, DIP-14 rectangular plug-in module. We'll see in the measurements whether the stock +/-20ppm performance is adequate; some of the best oscillators can maintain temperature stability down to 0.1ppm with TCXO and even lower with OCXO. Presumably, a higher precision clock can improve performance and I see that Douk is advertising TXCO and femtosecond versions coming soon.
You might be asking yourself:
"Why do I even want or need a USB interface DDC?"
There are a few possible answers that range from a practical need to supposed subjective benefits:
1. If you don't have a modern asynchronous USB input on your DAC, these will serve as a bridge to convert to S/PDIF and I²S-HDMI.2. You believe your DAC has poor temporal performance and expect that an external DDC box like these can reduce jitter because of reclocking.3. You believe that an external USB DDC bridge box like these might reduce noise. (You believe that USB itself or the cable from streamer/computer to DAC directly significantly exacerbates noise.)4. You just want to play with the I²S/I2S/IIS interface with your compatible DAC because it's what some people like Paul McGowan says "definitely sounds better than just straight USB".
[5. For the SMSL PO100 PRO, you can use it to add MQA decoding as a feature if your DAC does not support and you have need for it.]
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| Roon does not decode/bitstream Atmos (unfortunately, as discussed). So I usually transcode to 5.1 AAC at 512kbps using the FDK encoder which sounds transparent. This removes the Atmos metadata but I can still use Dolby Surround Upmixer or Auro-Matic. I keep a copy of the Atmos original elsewhere (typically as excellent-sounding 768kbps EAC3-JOC Atmos) for JRiver HDMI bitstreaming from my fanless miniPC to decoder (ie. AV receiver). |















Hi Archimago,
ReplyDeleteThat's an interesting topic! As for digital-to-digital converters, I have the previous version of Douk (U2 PRO XMOS XU208), AF200 USB (this one has AES3 output), MOTU 8D (this one also has sample rate converter), and Mutec MC-6 sample rate and format converter which lacks USB.
Like you, I also don't see a point in the I2S over HDMI cable. I prefer AES3 because unlike I2S, the former was specifically designed for transmission of digital audio over long paths.
One scenario when I find these boxes useful is when you need to capture audio from some consumer computer-based device (maybe a phone, or a tablet) on a computer, staying completely in digital domain. For that, you can plug your phone into this USB-to-SPDIF (or AES) box, and connect it to the input of a pro sound card. Essentially, you get a USB-to-USB unidirectional transfer system. Audio interfaces with two USB ports are rare (although iConnectivity makes some).
Cool tip Mikhail regarding the effectively USB-to-USB data capture within the digital domain!
DeleteLooks like you've got quite a bit of experience with these; I assume this is for music production work? Especially the MOTU and Mutec units?
That's for listening, but I love pro equipment, plus the geekery aspect :)
DeleteMOTU is very handy because it also supports AVB (audio over Ethernet), so you can connect together multiple units as needed.
I bought Mutec for connecting an iPad to a software-based DSP system which operates at a fixed sampling rate, but Apple Music on iPad chooses the output SR based on the content.
Cool man, "geekery" indeed! :-)
DeleteThanks for the article. I found the SMSL PO100 useful in two additional use cases:
ReplyDelete1) Record from a PC/smartphone to a minidisc. Naturally, minidisc recorders only have SPDIF/Optical digital inputs, which this box provides (yes, a minidisc can be recorded directly via the means of of NetMD, but sometimes I feel like doing it the "old-fashioned" way).
2) Many DSPs in car audio have an optical interface as the only means of digital input. To avoid an extra analog-to-digital conversion before applying DSP, I experimented with using SMSL PO100 as a converter between a smartphone and DSP. I believe this also may be practical when using older receivers.
Nice Konstantin, great stuff!
DeleteSomewhat related to this topic, I previously bought an older SMSL DAC (SU-1) after reading a rave review on ASR, so as to use the optical output of my TV for stereo PCM as an alternative to the HDMI Dolby 5.1 feeding my Sonos setup. I did this because some channels on my TV cable provider have the nasty habit of using Dolby 5.1 all the time, even when sending only two channels, therefore muting my surrounds and sub so the resulting sound is not much better than TV speakers…When the HDMI signal is PCM Stereo or Dolby 2.0, the Sonos controller automatically reconstructs a really good surround environment.
ReplyDeleteSo when I’m listening mostly to talking heads I prefer to use the PCM output fed to a NAD amp driving Paradigm mini monitors for a better stereo sound. This DAC sounds great for stereo music also of course.
Nice Gilles,
DeleteYup I'm sure that would work well as a simple 2-channel TosLink DAC! Cheers man!
Hej Arch,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the article. I don’t have any of these products , so I am unable to comment. Looking forward to the measurements! All information relating to this hobby is nonetheless of interest! I am having difficulty finding those multichannel mixes on Qobuz.
Recently I caught this on YouTube regarding cables which is quite revealing and thought provoking. Using random objects from fruit to frying pans to test conductivity to see if there is any degradation to the signal.
https://youtu.be/1fmCy686IC8?si=tQRcqguHhbmjpP-b
// Send it to all your cable fanatics who swear expensive cables are worth the money spent.
Spring is finally here. It has been a long and cold winter and I look forward to more warmth, sun and reasonable electricity bills.
Take care
Mike
Hi there
ReplyDeleteBack in the day when I was trying to decide if hi-res music was worth the effort and expense (and considered the computer audiophile a trustworthy source) I bought a SoTM USB->SPDIF box, as my DACs at the time couldn't handle USB signals greater than 96k.
This setup produced audible distortion at 176kHz on a familiar reference track (https://referencerecordings.com/recording/exotic-dances-from-the-opera/) when feeding the AudioLab MDAC.
Still not sure why, I think the MDAC's wasn't jitter-tolerant at any setting. The more modest PS Audio DLIII worked just fine.
SotM sold a $300+ power supply with reclocker for the device. I wasn't going to be fooled again.
These newer, cheaper (probably better) devices would have been great at the time, but now I've got async USB DACs and minidsp Flex so no longer an issue.
Interested to see how they perform at all sample rates (and with legacy DACs if you have any)
Cheers
Phil