tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post6446023729112611561..comments2024-03-29T05:47:10.437-07:00Comments on <em>Archimago's Musings</em>: MEASUREMENTS: Ethernet Cables and Audio...Archimagohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-19345995527817699462024-01-25T11:01:27.855-08:002024-01-25T11:01:27.855-08:00When it comes to Choosing Ethernet Cable
, there a...When it comes to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/best-ethernet-95721149" rel="nofollow">Choosing Ethernet Cable</a><br />, there are a few different categories to consider. The most commonly used Ethernet cables are Cat5e, Cat6, and Cat6a. The choice depends on your specific requirements and the speed you want to achieve.Davinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02286356060930665866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-49194844784009871912024-01-25T10:59:22.694-08:002024-01-25T10:59:22.694-08:00which ethernet cable is best?which ethernet cable is best?Mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03790633568899749784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-31213991350505823802024-01-25T10:55:12.522-08:002024-01-25T10:55:12.522-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03790633568899749784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-53141884382219068262024-01-15T09:32:35.976-08:002024-01-15T09:32:35.976-08:00https://blogstudiio.com/understanding-ethernet-cab...https://blogstudiio.com/understanding-ethernet-cables-the-core-medium-for-fast-networking/Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317963248119174029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-21718727595165787822021-06-02T02:45:28.517-07:002021-06-02T02:45:28.517-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.ripperonlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441171474846370347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-12257920636084233162021-06-02T02:45:05.532-07:002021-06-02T02:45:05.532-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.ripperonlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441171474846370347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-28888215776637991072021-06-02T02:44:30.035-07:002021-06-02T02:44:30.035-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.ripperonlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441171474846370347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-81076519541846690452019-05-16T13:55:08.701-07:002019-05-16T13:55:08.701-07:00If you insist it's "different" :-). ...If you insist it's "different" :-). I'm not sure I hear that!Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-76473626087939734972019-05-16T01:53:57.165-07:002019-05-16T01:53:57.165-07:00but sound is really different, even if if you don&...but sound is really different, even if if you don't know why (which is interesting but secondary)<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789778881766282319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-65020044299742978822015-11-20T18:33:01.054-08:002015-11-20T18:33:01.054-08:00700$ ethernet cable can Solve any errors on the gr...700$ ethernet cable can Solve any errors on the gramatics and orthocraps sendin emails trought them.<br />Any text is more poetic and methapors are slicker.Raimond Dashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04008887247168875302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-27751654501353306882015-08-04T08:29:32.469-07:002015-08-04T08:29:32.469-07:00Yes, sound was improved too by using Network cable...Yes, sound was improved too by using <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Aurum-Cables-Snagless-Ethernet-Network/dp/B00TSS4X0S/ref=sr_1_94?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1438362299&sr=1-94&keywords=ethernet+cable" rel="nofollow">Network cable cat5e</a> as noted in my review, particularly the bass.<br /><br />Waiting for A&L to supply me the second review sample to confirm your experienceSizzling LEOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07418735423086276114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-27198783917690342522015-06-12T06:36:59.983-07:002015-06-12T06:36:59.983-07:00Hi Lee,
Archimago can best answer this but from ...Hi Lee, <br /><br />Archimago can best answer this but from what I saw they are not measuring the same thing. The Stereo.net.au looks to be measuring ambient noise in voltage. <br /><br />Achimago is showing the transfer function which is what anyone into audio reproduction should be concerned about. <br /><br />Bottom line is always this: If you get a powerful enough measurement device you will Matt Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10588348466058526464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-58112549797508819402015-06-08T08:20:33.468-07:002015-06-08T08:20:33.468-07:00Hey Archimago—Lee from Ars here. Would love to tal...Hey Archimago—Lee from Ars here. Would love to talk with you further on this, and about a forum post on the same subject that shows different results from your testing (http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/82299-ethernet-cable/page-2#entry1353754). Would you be willing to send me an e-mail at lee dot hutchinson at arstechnica dot com?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07205476885644711009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-11483264803871797432015-05-09T22:09:05.012-07:002015-05-09T22:09:05.012-07:00I have $2000 that says you can not tell the differ...I have $2000 that says you can not tell the difference with a BJC certified CAT6 cable and a $350 AQ Vodka cable. <br /><br />It's all layed out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOp3WtOeDnE<br /><br />Let me know when you would like to do this. <br /><br />Matt Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15870804570658854036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-51569107184742520372015-05-09T22:04:10.262-07:002015-05-09T22:04:10.262-07:00One suggestion is the Ethernet cable you swapped o...One suggestion is the Ethernet cable you swapped out may not pass Ethernet spec. Two it's all placebo affect.<br /><br />The thing to realize is that when you are using an Ethernet connected DAC you left the realm of real-time. Data is buffered and played back out of buffer. Any jitter on the Ethernet cables matters for nothing unless the buffer under runs. Then you get skipped playback. <br Matt Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15870804570658854036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-73263124901279608202015-04-08T14:39:24.080-07:002015-04-08T14:39:24.080-07:00... my God.
How do those people think computers c...... my God.<br /><br />How do those people think <i>computers can even work</i>?<br /><br />If an analog artifact from the ethernet cable can flip a bit in the PHY compared to the desired output <i>it's defective</i>.<br /><br />If they're magically somehow getting in from the ethernet cable, through the PHY, and out as line-level logic "with analog artifacts", well, <i>nothing Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-37802760342201102612015-03-25T15:10:51.267-07:002015-03-25T15:10:51.267-07:00Timing is overrated? OMG, I can't believe som...Timing is overrated? OMG, I can't believe someone said that about digital audio. Timing is one of the single most critical aspects of streaming audio over a digital cable. <br /><br />Go to one of these high end cable mfg and sit down with the cable engineers and discuss this with them in person and maybe they'll show you the tests they perform. You may not even have the proper Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01804191598025502079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-65941283925973040372015-03-25T15:05:03.734-07:002015-03-25T15:05:03.734-07:00What about noise that's coming from another pi...What about noise that's coming from another piece of equipment that you have in your system that they didn't have when they conducted the tests? Example. I've seen data centers with very good cable management where data cables were kept away from power cables. I've been in data centers where they didn't. Couldn't the noise that comes from power cables cause problems forAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01804191598025502079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-41980895807166018812015-02-23T10:33:25.012-08:002015-02-23T10:33:25.012-08:00That is correct and I agree.
However, the more op...That is correct and I agree.<br /><br />However, the more open-minded folks are of the opinion that sound quality is not solely determined by the 1's and 0's but it is 'affected' by 'analog artefacts' and timing related issues in the electric signal that represents those 1's and 0's.<br />They strongly feel this way and are convinced the 'digital = only 1 and 0solderdudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00391699689539064581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-85598449130815569322015-02-23T09:49:49.750-08:002015-02-23T09:49:49.750-08:00Regarding ethernet cables -- the topic of this blo...Regarding ethernet cables -- the topic of this blog post -- if the bits got from point A to point B without error then the cable did its job and is not the source of any audible difference. My comment above is that there are tools available to anyone to answer this question unambiguously.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459324947130187687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-4183369795892488572015-02-23T07:18:16.069-08:002015-02-23T07:18:16.069-08:00Agree with all you said. Except "I guess it&#...Agree with all you said. Except "I guess it's business" part. <br />You were probably ironic, but it reminds me of well known gangster/machiavellian phrase: "Nothing personal, it's just business.". I'd really like to hear a few SINCERE words from Sony ENGINEERS that made this 64Gb piece of *low noise* miracle. But who ask engineers anything any more. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05357797686805728839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-41998080071242889542015-02-23T06:34:46.823-08:002015-02-23T06:34:46.823-08:00A summary of how I believe more open-minded people...A summary of how I believe more open-minded people think/feel....<br /><br />The open-minded people, with their superior hearing and more revealing gear, are like the closed-minded people convinced the differences in sound they ARE perceiving is not caused by bits toppeling over.<br />Bits are bits, that is not under debate.<br />It's the 'physical quality' of the electrical signal solderdudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00391699689539064581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-22737089793889429712015-02-22T18:27:35.275-08:002015-02-22T18:27:35.275-08:00There's an easy way to see if any errors occur...There's an easy way to see if any errors occur in Ethernet transmission. We will assume that if zero errors occur during transmission that some possible audio difference might be found, but if that there are no errors then the cable is the wrong place to look for the cause of any difference.<br /><br />Ethernet packets contain a checksum as you noted, and that checksum is monitored by the Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459324947130187687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-59722369582015116922015-02-22T18:23:58.079-08:002015-02-22T18:23:58.079-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459324947130187687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4781727111866727703.post-35606002975513038652015-02-21T08:36:00.614-08:002015-02-21T08:36:00.614-08:00Timing IMO is over-rated :-)
Until someone is abl...Timing IMO is over-rated :-)<br /><br />Until someone is able to demonstrate that there actually are timing irregularities which would cause a significant change in the characteristics (like some kind of actual jitter test coming from a reasonable DAC), I think there are no worries. Just theoretical possibilities. I have seen the jitter anomalies from DACs and source players, but I don't Archimagohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642574001287787545noreply@blogger.com