Well, as I've mentioned previously, I don't really need more headphones. ;-) Alas, I could not resist picking up these minty Drop + HIFIMAN HE-4XX Planar Magnetics locally used at a price I could not refuse! I also love how they look with the classic headband. The matte "midnight blue" color looks like a dark charcoal with a subtle powder bluish tinge.
I know there have been different opinions on the build quality of these headphones. Some of the early units had issues with right-left imbalance, driver failures, and broken hinges. According to this post, it looks like replacements with serial number 5XXX have many issues fixed. My unit here has serial number 57XX.
The hinge where it interfaces with the headband feels robust on this unit and I think the build quality is very good. The steel gimbal and metal sliders seem like they will be able to hold up to daily use. No complaints there. I did have an issue with the part interfacing the ear cup which I'll discuss below.
The stock cable is a little short for my taste at around 5'/1.5m (6' would be better for my desktop use). Notice that the cable is angled 90°, terminated with a 3.5mm connector which is fine for mobile use. I think a straight cable would have been preferred since most buyers would likely be using these open headphones at home almost exclusively. I like the soft, pliable nature of the cable although I have read some complaints that it can kink and fail. I don't think there's an issue, replacements are not expensive anyway.
These have good-sized 60mm planar magnetic drivers. Not the largest of course, headphones like the Monolith M1060 claim 106mm driver size which should help with bass output, but as usual, size isn't everything. ;-) Certainly larger drivers than the Dekoni Blue/Fostex T50RP discussed previously.
As you can see, already these are not by any means small headphones! Depending on your head size, the proportions could already look a bit ridiculous. Certainly nothing like the ridiculousness of the Abyss 1266 Phi TC though.
Another view of the planar magnetic driver from the inside when I removed the earpad:
The "midnight blue" color shows up quite nicely in this picture in natural light. |
Notice that the plastic clips on the inside of the earpads slide under the thin metal ring around the driver in the 4 corners. Usually not too difficult to install and detach with the soft bendable earpad plastic ring.
These cans I have are not stock. The original earpads have been replaced with the Brainwavz XL Round Hybrid Earpads (be mindful of the larger XL 110mm diameter size with 65mm inner diameter, standard round 100mm replacements would not fit well) with plastic mounting rings. Users have complained about the durability of the stock pads after a year of use. I'm sure these aftermarket pads will change the measurements a bit so be aware. However, if you're interested in an aftermarket pad, the measurements will at least give you an idea of how this combination presents.
These are terminated with 2.5mm TRRS and I'd need a 2.5mm to 4-pin XLR adaptor to use them with my Drop + THX AAA 789 amplifier. Thus far, I have not used the balanced output yet, but have ordered an adaptor to try later.
Some time in later 2019, the Drop + HIFIMAN HE-4XX was updated with 3.5mm plugs for each ear cup. The one I have here is the original dual 2.5mm version. I don't believe there is any evidence that this makes a difference to the sound since the drivers are the same. I suppose a larger connector should be more robust.
These headphones feel good on the head with the Brainwavz pads. They're clearly heavier headphones (430gm without cables) than something like the extremely light AKGs. The clamping force is a bit stronger than something like the Dekoni Blue and is about the same as the Sennheiser HD650, especially with these thicker ear pads. The semicircular headband works well for me to distribute the weight. Comfort is good overall but I definitely notice the weight of the cans on the head with prolonged listening sessions (more than an hour). Also, I'm quite sensitive to clamping force so whether it's these or the Sennheiser HD650, I find I take them off every hour or so for a little break from the extra pressure.
I. Measurements
1. The driver matching is excellent between R & L, from 20Hz to 20kHz.2. This headphone has good bass and sub-bass.3. There's a mid/upper-mid dip which will definitely have an influence on the sound.
II. How does it sound?
As usual, while I believe the objective results are more important, hence presented first, I did make sure to listen to the headphones before putting them on the measurement jig and wrote down some impressions of the sound over a couple of evenings.
I'm impressed by how well these headphones handle acoustic music. For example, John Renbourn's album Sir John Alot of Merrie Englandes Musyk Thyng & ye Grene Knyghte from 1968 is recorded remarkably well. Tonality of the flute, guitar, and percussion on "Morgana" was rich, sounded realistic, and with excellent "spatial" separation between the instruments (far left flute, center guitar, right percussion). If you like British traditional folk, make sure to give this album a listen!
Likewise, I really enjoyed revisiting Ry Cooder's atmospheric Paris, Texas soundtrack the other night with these. Lovely just how the large headphones envelope the listener. Excellent detail retrieval - guitar plucks reproduced with wonderful precision on the attacks.
My only complaint would be with vocals. Voices can sound a bit too recessed, even slightly "hollow" at times (don't know if better with stock pads or if accentuated with the Brainwavz XL earpads). The reason is obvious looking at the frequency response. Looking around the Internet, it's always interesting to see the different viewpoints offered. I'm with those who feel that the mid-range is a bit too laid back (like this review) which is why with some vocals - particularly females like say Norah Jones's "Shoot The Moon" on Come Away With Me, sounds like she's a bit further away than the accompanying bass and guitar. Furthermore, the vocal tonality sounds slightly duller than it should, reminiscent of the "Sennheiser veil" of the HD650. This is not as obvious with vocals at a lower register. For example, Holly Cole singing "Whatever Lola Wants" on the recent album Montreal (DR9, 2021) is not affected as much given her lower pitched voice. And most male vocalists would be only mildly affected.
Some have said that the trebles are too sibilant. Maybe, but I'm much less bothered by that than the relative midrange recess.
These 'phones can rock hard on Led Zeppelin's The Song Remains the Same (2018 Blu-Ray remaster). It's an old live recording from 1976 so resolution isn't great but the energy in the performances is good and documents a "peak" era for the band. So long as your headphone amp can handle it, this headphone will happily "bring it". Even at higher-than-healthy volumes for prolonged listening, I didn't notice any objectionable distortion. Because the recording is a bit mid-range recessed, I found this album matched poorly with the laid back HE-4XX upper-mid; certainly midrange boost preferable.
Modern pop/rock like Bon Jovi's Bon Jovi 2020 (DR6) sounded "alright" at best on account of the perverse self-inflicted subpar sonic quality of the recording. Honestly, modern pop like this will have many audible distortions that will clearly show up with good headphones. Sure, I can still enjoy a track like "Limitless" but this is in spite of the poor sound quality and it's simply not conducive to repeated listening. I sometimes wonder if the aging rockers (Jon Bon Jovi is only 59 currently but who knows about hearing ability) recognize just how far down the sound of their recordings have dropped compared to their output from the '80s and '90s - a shame! Rock demands dynamics.
No issues at all with reproducing the head-pounding bass on "Virtù e Fortuna" (Westworld: Season 2). Dynamics excellent on Jim Keltner's "Improvisation" (The Sheffield Track & Drum Record).
As usual, other than binaural music, "soundstage" is typically not something I spend much time considering with headphones. It's mainly "all in the head" sound with varying left/right panning. The Drop + HIFIMAN HE-4XX is no different. What is excellent is the sense of clarity and "space" around instruments and voices on good audiophile recordings. For example, on Blue Coast Collection Vol. 2, the excellent clarity of the vocals, guitar, and piano on "On The Moon" was good enough to imagine being in the room with the artists even if missing an actual 3D illusion due to the headphone presentation.
[As discussed last year, sound quality is more a reflection of recording and production sensibilities rather than whether something is "hi-res" as in 24-bits, high samplerate, or DSD. Blue Coast's albums like the one above are good examples. When looking at these albums in an audio editor, we clearly see that noise floor is relatively high and the high-frequency content >20kHz has noise and other anomalies due to the use of an analogue process along with DSD noise shaping. A 16/48 downsample will easily capture the content IMO for most of these albums, and save you storage space.]
III. In Summary...
Like I said, I got these at a price I could not refuse. Brand new, at less than US$200, the Drop + HIFIMAN HE-4XX is one heck of a planar magnetic headphone for not a lot of money! No surprise that they've sold something like 42,000 of these over the years. The non-stock Brainwavz XL Round Hybrid Earpads I'm using here are comfortable and an affordable alternative whenever the stock pad wears out.
I know people would use the term "entry level" for something in this price range. Honestly, I don't think this way because in reality, given the performance levels these days, I believe even a humbly-priced device like this can take on the sound quality of many much more expensive headphones in a non-price-tag-biased blinded A/B shootout. We are well along the "diminishing returns" curve that we should not expect "day and night" differences among reasonably good quality hi-fidelity devices these days. Simply wonderful just how much quality one can get with a small audio budget in the 21st Century. The main thing to listen for (if mine here is reflective of other HE4XX's out there) is that recessed upper-mid. I have no major concerns otherwise.
While I'm sure there are sonic differences beyond the external physical characteristics and cosmetics, these headphones are related to the contemporary HIFIMAN HE-400i (also can be had <US$200). Going up the HIFIMAN line of headphones, there's the well-regarded Sundara, Ananda, Arya, and their top-of-the-line Susvara (staying with the planar magnetics). Of them, I've only listened to the Sundara at a friend's place about a week ago and although I don't have any objective confirmation, I actually preferred the HE-4XX's (+ Brainwavz pads) more visceral bass response while the Sundara seemed better in the upper-mid but risked being too bright.
To improve the sound of these HIFIMAN HE-4XX + Brainwavz XL Round Hybrid pads, here's the EQ I use to bump up the mid/upper-mid:
Bands 1 & 2 most important, the others optional. I suggest turning on "Headroom management" given the EQ gains. |
Sounds fantastic! Vocals brought forward pleasantly, more focused, especially female voices and improves the overall sense of dynamics.
I've been rotating among 3 main headphones for most of my listening in the last while - these Drop + HIFIMAN HE-4XX, the Sennheiser HD800, and my modded Arch-Mod5 Dekoni Blue described a couple weeks back. While they're very different physically and soundwise, I don't have a huge preference among the 3 as it depends on my mood and what music I'm listening to.
As much as headphone listening is needed sometimes, for comfort, a great soundstage, and good ol' bass impact, it's back to the sound room, speakers, and sub as much as possible! ;-)
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Maintenance: If the hinge detaches...
Since changing the ear pads may require a bit of force and twisting, at one point, the hinge between the yoke and the insertion point into the earcup detached like this while I was having a look at the driver underneath:
Notice the earpiece has a hole into which the metal screw mount insert is embedded and has gone loose. |
First things first... No need to panic if outside of warranty period. ;-)
It seems this is not a terribly uncommon thing to happen and I hope the newer versions have had this issue addressed.
Take a small Torx screwdriver and unscrew the brass (?) insert and rubber ring from the yoke:
Now put a small amount of Loctite or Superglue along the inside of the ear cup hole where the metal "coupling nut" goes into. Don't use too much obviously - make sure the glue doesn't overflow out and mar the cup or seep deep into the headphone!
Stick the "coupling" screw thread metal piece back in - let it set and dry for a few minutes like so:
Before re-screwing together, you can bend the Y-shaped yoke to conform closer to the cup's diameter to lower tension and likelihood to "pop out" again. Some users have considered this as the first "mod" you should do when you first buy one of these headphones. I cannot disagree and have done this for both sides.
Screw the yoke back in place with the rubber ring (don't screw too tight).
Good as new. Yeah, I wished they had a more robust design! Well, these headphones are built to a certain low price point so slight maintenance over time might not be completely surprising. On the bright side, at least it's not worse like something actually snapping into pieces or stripped screw threads. This is easy to repair.
So guys and gals, anything happening in the audio world in the last week? I'm not seeing much in the news. With Apple's WWDC coming June 7-11, I guess people are watching for the imminent availability of lossless/Atmos streaming content on Apple Music.
We're approaching the summer season so things do tend to be slower in general. Likewise for me, while there's not much in the way of travel or major vacations coming up, I'm hoping to enjoy some time just listening to music, reading a good book, or watching movies with the family as COVID-19 restrictions should be relaxing substantially over the next month. Still working on some upcoming articles of course; time allowing after the day job. ;-)
Enjoy the music! Hope things are well with you and yours...
Once again you touch on an inexpensive product that I own. ( None of my headphones cost more than $200 ) I like the HE4xx's, but out of all my Drop 'phones, I like the Meze Noirs ( rebadged 99 Classics )for all around comfort and all-around sound. The SQ is good-not great because the bass can get a little bit "loose", but they're sensitive and can be powered with a phone very well. They won't stand a lot of volume from a powerful amp, however. Still, I can wear them while gaming for hours on end and then listen to some music afterward with no discomfort. I'd love to see the Meze tested by you to see if my ears have captured the pros/cons of these headphones correctly. Until then, I love reading your reviews.
ReplyDeleteThanks trog,
DeleteYeah, I haven't seen the Meze Noirs here but will keep an eye out on these. Sounds like interesting cans!
Oh, and about that, "As much as headphone listening is needed sometimes, for comfort, a great soundstage, and good ol' bass impact, it's back to the sound room, speakers, and sub as much as possible! ;-)"
ReplyDeleteI so fully agree! I bring up moar bass with a good 12" sub to complement the ADS 910's dual-10" bass drivers. It's not really noticeable until I crank up some TOOL, and then bass is driving and potent.
:-)
DeleteQuick question Trog, how do you feel about the HE-4XX's mid/upper-mid which sounds too recessed on mine with the Brainwavz ear pads? Is your stock unit and presumably pads sounding more neutral?
I've seen measurements suggesting both upper-mid darkness as well as others showing relatively more neutral headphones.
I'll wear them for a couple of days and let you know what I hear. It's been a while since using them.
DeleteSuper interesting review... I'm using the 10-band EQ settings from the oratory1990 database for my 4XX headphones and it seems to have really dialed in the sound nicely.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/9o2f5n/psa_oratory1990s_list_of_eq_presets/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
Thanks Hal,
DeleteHad a look at his 10-band EQ setting:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5i36fu6jwk6hbxp/Hifiman%20HE4XX%20%28Graphic%20EQ%20setting%29.pdf?dl=0
Looks like his needed a lot of low bass boost of +8dB at 31Hz and smaller amounts in the mids (+2dB at 2kHz and +1dB at 4kHz). Definitely that would be bass overkill on mine here with the Brainwavz pads and I'd still like to have a bit more in the mids.
So looks to me like the ear pads will make a significant difference to the sound.
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ReplyDeleteWhat software is this?: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BmdOWu3VB-Y/YKrNFzF0AxI/AAAAAAAAbWM/EzNZndVo9dcaZGQDQtIvZJVcrSWkoZanQCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h472/Drop%2B%252B%2BHifiman%2BHE4XX%2B-%2BBrainWavz%2BXL%2BPad%2BEQ.png
ReplyDeleteHi adsf,
DeleteThat's Roon's parametric EQ settings.
I was bothered by the highs on my 4xx, but using a cable with a correct filter (made by Solderdude for less then $10.-) the problem is gone, no more sibilance! And no EQ required..
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