This time, we'll finish up with further measurements of output power, distortions, subjective discussions, and summary.
Unless a product can be purchased, there's probably no point publishing the results! So I timed this post to correlate with the opening of the 3e Audio AliExpress store for these products.
I. Power
Class D amplifiers are known to provide good amounts of power with high efficiency in small boxes. Let's see what the A5 (Stereo) is able to do into my standard 4Ω resistive load - both channels driven, for best quality, I'll use the XLR input from the Sabaj A20d 2022 DAC (ESS ES9038PRO converter), and volume control was bypassed:
That's a great start with 121W into 4Ω up to 0.1% THD+N. For context, this is a little more power than the Topping PA5 Mk II+ previously measured at 102W with same load and threshold.
And here's the same 4Ω THD vs. Power graph for the A7 Mono:
We're seeing good amounts of power from both amps correlating with the capabilities of the respective TI TPA components they're based on. The A5 Stereo achieves around 120W and A7 Mono just over 200W of "hi-fi" power defined as <0.1% THD+N as per my usual convention. Notice for both amps, we can see the THD+N curves dip below -100dB, suggesting very low distortions that we can examine in greater detail later.
Let's have a look at the output power with higher 8Ω load(s) as seen in some higher efficiency speakers out there:
As expected, we have halved the wattage into a doubled resistive load. Around 60W, 0.1% for the 3e A5 (Stereo), and just over 100W, 0.1% for the A7 Mono.
Both amplifiers are running in parallel bridge-tied load (PBTL) configuration, capable of handling 2Ω loads. Since I only had one 2Ω power resistor that can tolerate higher wattage, I tested this on the 3e Audio A7 Mono:
The amp was able to produce 330Wrms continuously into 2Ω, 0.1% distortion (not "instantaneous", "peak", or "transient" power as one might see in advertising material). Looks like there wasn't enough current for a clean doubling from the previous 200W into 4Ω. Good to see that the amp was able to push >25.5Vrms into such a low resistance without complaint for over 30 seconds. And if you're willing to really stretch it to 10% distortion (commonly reported in specs to impress general consumers, not audiophiles 🤨), I measured 450W continuous. Not quite the 600W in 3e's manual but still a big number for these little Class D chip amps with the switching power supplies!
I don't see anything unusual in the harmonic structure in that odd harmonics, especially the 3rd, tend to predominate at higher output like with other TI TPA amps I've evaluated.
I captured the THD vs. Output Level down to -110dBFS. So if we look at the output level linearity:
Almost perfect linearity down to -110dBFS with less than +/-0.5dB using the A7 Mono amp, even at such low levels. We can see the clipping up around -2dBFS which correlates with >1% distortion. While not shown, the A5 likewise is just as "perfect" down to -110dBFS. These are DAC-like results.
II. Single-Tone Distortion
Let's now drill down to the typical 1kHz THD+N (reciprocal of SINAD) FFT's starting with the A5 Stereo amp:
These are seriously clean results of around -100dB at just 1W into 4Ω and -104dB at 5W which speaks to a high level of engineering precision. These imply that the amp is capable of reproducing hi-res content beyond 16-bit CD resolution (notice ENOB results all >16-bits). Harmonics are all below -110dB from the 1kHz fundamental.
And in the same way, the A7 Mono:
TI TPA3255 amps like the A7 Mono can obviously provide significantly more power as we saw above, but with slightly higher distortion and noise than well-executed TPA3251 designs (like the A5).
I see the differences are basically academic though. Any amp that performs with better than -90dB THD+N at 1W I think deserves respect especially at affordable price points! Regarding the A7 Mono, achieving better than THD+N -95dB, 1W into 4Ω, is simply excellent and this is the first time I've seen a TPA3255 amplifier achieve THD+N better than -100dB on my testbench into 5W.
These THD+N/SINAD results are a few dBs better than the Fosi Audio V3 Mono measured previously. I must continue to stress that when better than -90dB, distortion down here is more or less a mere 0.003%.
Make sure to appreciate this as an engineering design and manufacturing triumph rather than a reflection of a meaningful, audible difference!
Switching over to the RCA input, the graphs above are the THD+N FFTs for the A5 and A7 Mono at the two gain settings. As expected, there is an increase in noise and distortion when using single-ended compared to balanced (almost always see the 60Hz powerline hum). Again, we see just a slight edge with the A5 (TPA3251) compared to A7 Mono (TPA3255).
If we focus on the A7 Mono, while there is a drop from THD+N of -101dB using XLR down to around -97dB, this is clearly still excellent. The RCA input performed very well and does not significantly give up much resolution.
It's all well and good to look at 1kHz test tones, but let's examine distortion across the audible frequencies 20-20kHz - here's the 3e Audio A7 Mono THD vs. frequency step data at 2V (1W), 4.5V (5W) and 10V (25W) into 4Ω:
Nothing scary here across the frequencies. It's typical to see that rise in distortion >2kHz primarily due to increasing 3rd harmonic in these TI TPA amps. Regardless, above 2kHz and as we get beyond optimal hearing acuity (>5kHz), the amp still maintains -80dB/0.01% THD+N. It's also normal that the graph collapses above 6.6kHz because beyond that, the 3rd harmonic surpasses 20kHz and gets filtered out. Beyond 10kHz, even the 2nd harmonic goes above 20kHz and all we're measuring is the noise component.
Although there's nothing scary happening here, perhaps the next generation of Class D chip amps might be able to control that odd harmonic rise into higher frequencies better.
Let's mix it up a little, here's the A5 graph at 6.3Vrms into 8Ω (5W) across 20-20kHz:
Again, all looks good. Notice I've put the cursor at 1kHz; we can see that the THD+N is better than -106dB, excellent low distortion into 8Ω with the A5 at 5W.
You might be wondering, so what if I have volume control active and use RCA High Gain, both of which are expected to add a bit of distortion and noise? Does that deteriorate performance badly?
Let's compare using a THD vs. Level sweep on the A5 Stereo into 4Ω, both channels driven, RCA input set at +26dB Hi-Gain but we'll turn the volume control down by -3dB so the expected peak output will be equivalent to 100% level with the Low-Gain RCA and XLR input settings.
In so doing, we can overlay XLR+Bypassed, RCA-Low+Bypassed, and RCA-High+Volume Control 1kHz THD+N level step graphs:
[A number of years ago, we discussed the superiority of digital/software volume control on this blog. Don't be afraid of well-implemented 32/64-bit digital volume control.]
III. Multi-Tone Distortion
Finally, let's have a look at the Triple-Tone TD+N which I've been using as my main measurement of distortion when I summarize amplifier performance. The lower the TD+N, the better - here's the A5 Stereo 2V into 4Ω (~1W):
And the A7 Mono:
Again, the results are better than -90dB/0.003% - simply excellent and as far as I can tell, "transparent". As we have seen already, the lower-power 3e A5 (TPA3251) is capable of putting up some excellent results at this 2V/1W level into 4Ω, typically better than TI TPA3522 amps.
Casual listening in the living room with my Tannoy bookshelves. I had Roon streaming to the old Chromecast Audio into the amp's RCA inputs. |
IV. Subjective
Roon Server computer → Ethernet → Fanless MiniPC → USB → Sabaj A20d 2022 DAC (ES9038PRO) → XLR → 3e A5 amp → RED DRAGON speaker cables → Paradigm Signature S8v3 floorstanders
Lastly, let's have a listen to the classic Carpenters: Singles 1969-1981 (2000, DR10 stereo, DR13 SACD 5.1 mix from 2004) compilation.
Using the 3e A5 stereo, and A7 Mono as front L/C/R amps in multichannel/Atmos set-up, off the Integra DRX-8.4 XLR pre-outs. |
V. Summary
Okay, the summary score sheets please (see this for more info):
TI TPA325X designs continue to evolve in these latest models from 3e Audio with optimized PFFB, more power using the supplied GaN power supplies that I was sent, low Class D switching noise, a full set of features including reliable auto signal detect, balanced and unbalanced inputs, clipping indicator, bypassable volume control, and adjustable RCA gain (A5 Stereo: +23/+26dB, A7 Mono: +26/+29dB).
As you can see in the 3e A5 (Stereo) and 3e A7 Mono summaries above, the damping factor in these amps are now in the hundreds to the point where I might as well just say ">300x" with 4Ω load to indicate highly load-invariant behavior which is further demonstrated in the well-controlled frequency response graphs.
Notice that the A5 has slightly lower distortion than the A7 Mono. I think it's reasonable to say that in most domestic listening rooms with efficient loudspeakers where you likely need less than 50W into 8Ω or 100W into 4Ω, the A5 will likely be all that is needed. You can keep an eye on the clipping indicators on the amp to see if you ever push beyond what the amplifier can provide. If so, you might need to upgrade to something more powerful.
For those who have the need for more power, or just want to look cool with monoblocks 😉, the A7 Mono might be for you. Plenty of clean power - ~100W into 8Ω, ~200W into 4Ω, ~300W into 2Ω at ≤0.1% THD+N. This should satisfy all but the most extreme of "power users" with demanding speakers and/or larger rooms.
The volume control is convenient to have especially with the A7 Mono to adjust relative levels manually in a multichannel system or maybe relative stereo balance between 2 channels. As expected, you will see a slight deterioration in resolution when using the physical volume control. As shown in the THD vs. output level graph in Part II where I used Hi-Gain RCA in and activated the volume control in the A5, the degradation isn't severe (a 10dB worsening of THD+N from -95 to -85dB isn't audibly an issue, right!?). As audiophiles, we always have to be mindful of the gain applied through our systems. For best resolution on these amps, use XLR input, bypass the volume control, and use 32/64-bit digital volume control when you can.
Even with prolonged use over hours, both the A5 and A7 Mono were just moderately warm with these pre-release units suggesting good heatsink design (said to be equivalent to the final release). The auto-sleep mode was predictable and would kick in at 5 minutes without an input signal. When the input signal is active, it takes a couple of seconds for the amplifier to wake up. Basically it works like many subwoofers where you just leave it plugged in and it'll kick it whenever you play something. I did not notice any strange noises but turning on and off did result in a soft click through my speakers.
On the test bench, the amps performed very well. When pushed to extremes, I've triggered protection mode a few times without incident. They seem to be quite robust little boxes. Unlike some amps where as a reviewer/tester I might feel a bit anxious about possibly damaging them when pushed hard, I'm actually feeling quite confident that these guys seem to do a good job protecting themselves.
Compared to other devices I have reviewed, the 3e A5 is similar to the Topping PA5 Mk II+ but offers a little bit more power and about equivalent resolution. The Topping offers a 12V trigger and TRS balanced jacks whereas the 3e A5 goes into auto-power-saving after 5 minutes of silence and has a convenient combination XLR/TRS balanced inputs. They are both based on the the TI TPA3251.
The A7 Mono is similar to the Fosi Audio V3 Mono but again with more power, slightly better resolution as reflected in the THD+N, and triple-tone TD+N. What I found more significant is that the A7 Mono performs significantly better with RCA input than the Fosi Audio V3 Mono with less distortion and lower noise, plus the availability of the volume control adds convenience.
As discussed in the Subjective section, I found that these 3e Audio amps sounded very neutral and simply conveyed the contents of the recordings without editorialization. They consistently sounded "clean", nuanced, projected authoritative dynamic transients, and rendered wide and deep sound stages. Within the power envelope of each amplifier, I'm not sure I can ask for more sound-quality-wise regardless of MSRP as a hi-fi enthusiast.
I see that 3e has opened their "Buy Now" page on AliExpress. With the A5 + 38V/5A power supply going for US$240 and A7 Mono + 48V/5A at US$180, the prices seem very reasonable for the quality and would be competitive with products from other manufacturers.
I see the AliExpress listings have multiple entries for EU and US plugs as well as the different models. Make sure you select the right one!
For the A7 Mono, I tested using a more powerful 52V/9A power supply. If you're intent on driving 2Ω loads, maybe consider something like this 48V/10A GaN unit for the extra current. Otherwise, the included 48V/5A should be very adequate for most users.
With these new amps, 3e Audio pushes affordable TI TPA325X Class D chip designs forward and I don't see anything here objectionable. I don't know if this is the pinnacle of TI TPA325X performance but I bet it's at least very close!
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Let's end off with something for pop culture fans.
Taylor Swift's The Eras Tour just ended and here are a few pictures from the last concert of the tour in Vancouver on Sunday December 8, 2024. Highest grossing tour of all time (thus far). Alas, only so much quality from a little cell phone. Packed stadium, lots of loud singing and laughter. Kids of all ages dressed up.
There were many official video cameras at BC Place for these shows so I assume there will be a documentary or concert video of the performances down the road.
Thankfully I got tickets a year ago when they went on sale. Insane scalper prices near the end! Heck, hocking off a couple of tickets could have easily netted some pretty decent "high-end" gear. Maybe even better, if I rented out my house for a few days plus tickets for the show, went down to Hawaii for those days, I'd still have more than enough for some 5-figure audiophile loudspeakers. 🤣
Of course, as any logical guy would, I did contemplate the options... Ultimately, we live subjective lives and there are things we pay for to capture memories, I suppose. Certainly fun to see the girls in the family turned into 'Swifties'. 🥰
Cheers everyone. Hope you're enjoying your music, hi-fi, and year-end activities!
I really enjoyed this review Archimago, and I have the impression you enjoyed making it, even though 'yet' another 325*. I'm inferring that in your listening you never saw the A5's clip. Those speakers of yours I think are 92db efficient? I'd be using 91db Triangles. This might be a basic question, but at what efficiency do you think the A7's might be better than A5's? Might be a 'newbe question' as I lean towards the A5 in my set up. Many thanks - top top review.
ReplyDeleteGreetings SMen!
DeleteYes, it's been a pleasure checking out these little amps in detail. Nice to see the evolution of the objective performance over time. And yes, it's fun getting hands on specific devices like these 3e Audio models to see what the companies can do.
These TI TPA's are in many ways the benchmark for affordable Class D amplifiers for this time in history with legitimate "high fidelity" performance. I believe they can easily overtake many if not most of the much more expensive amps out there regardless of price.
I know this idea can be uncomfortable for certain companies but that's what happens with technological progress. Things that were harder to do (like saw achieving 16-bit dynamic range into 1W) can in time become the norm and at price points "high-end audio" might choose to devalue. While luxury characteristics like workmanship, material costs, exotic products, sentiment towards a brand can still demand high costs, "high fidelity sound quality" does not need to be something we correlate with price any more.
Yeah, my speakers are about 92dB/m/2.8V in room. Nope, have not seen the green clipping lights come on with the A5 unless I really push the volume beyond what I feel comfortable with in my room!
The difference between ~60W to ~100W (4Ω, 0.1% THD+N difference between A5 and A7 Mono) is only about 2-3dB. The difference is clearly not large and why I think most users will be just fine with the A5!
Thank you! ... I'm just going to add in relation to 3e and your reply to them, that 3e are in no way 'pushing' the more expensive models over the 3251. On the contrary, the combination of going to the trouble of putting in clipping meters, and rating their 3251 'highest performance' suggests they are quite happy to 'go against the grain'. They also published measurements of different op amps in reply to a question I had over on ASR, so kudos to them... Hopefully their new foray into constructed amps works out well (I'm just waiting on my early bird discount)!
DeleteGood point SMen,
DeleteI believe for most set-ups, the A5 (TPA3251) amp is plenty of power already. Especially for straight forward audiophile systems where playback is bit-perfect from the DAC.
The A5 has lower noise and distortion as discussed in the measurements so I agree the performance is better in those ways. Definitely no need for a "push" to the higher power model even though for some folks, it seems there's still a "bigger is better" mentality - especially with high MSRP! 🤣
The other day, I watched a YouTube video briefly and the presenter made a comment about needing "at least 250W/ch minimum" for the PS Audio Aspen FR5 speakers. Assuming the sensitivity in the specs of 83.5dB/2.83V/m, 5.6Ω min are true, I suppose speakers like that could benefit from a few more watts with the A7 Mono. Would also depend on size and sitting distance in the room of course.
The claim about needing 250W (care to elaborate?) before the speakers "wake up" seems a bit vague and excessive. 🤔
While I appreciate the review and the kudos for it, I still find myself unclear about how these new Class D models differentiate from one another beyond their features. For instance, is the A5 a better buy compared to, say, the Topping PA5 II or the Hypex S125NC? How do these models stack up against an AVR, such as the entry-level Denon X1800H?
ReplyDeleteFair question farciarz,
DeleteI think once you hit the level of objective performance with a good modern low-distortion amplifier that reaches and exceeds your power requirements, personal preferences then take over.
I would say something like this assuming one is looking for hi-fi sound (as opposed to clearly more colored, romantic tube sound for example):
1. Adequate power with high fidelity for speakers and room, capable of driving low-impedance loads if I have such speakers.
2. Features I'm looking for (12V trigger, auto-sensing, balanced input, volume control, multiple inputs, AV switching like the Denon...)
3. Appearance and adequate build quality. (Nothing wrong with VU meters, 50lbs+ weight.)
4. What I want to project to myself and visitors! For example, some audiophiles might think the Iron Man look of the Dartzeel amp or the cool meters and design of D'Agostino are necessary for satisfaction.
Many of these amps are inexpensive enough with good return policies if not satisfied that you can probably buy and run blind tests on at home!
Dear Archimago, really appreciate your great review.
ReplyDeletei must say,our team continue put engineering effort keep optimized PFFB that even slightly improvement which other brand won't get there in an easy way.
Please make mono blocks based on A5.
DeleteA pleasure 3eAudio to test out. All the best to you and your engineering team!
DeleteA side note for readers. I think it shows confidence when companies would send products out to independent reviewers (like ASR, myself, guys measuring speakers, etc.) knowing that they're going to be reporting on objective performance and not just subjective mental perceptions. Especially this early in the release of a product, one can imagine a company preferring a "soft" but positive review with a subjective reviewer on YouTube or online site.
For the record, other than getting my shipping details and answering a couple of E-mails over the last month, 3e Audio did not have any part in the writing or reviewing of these articles. They saw these results the same time as everyone else visiting this site upon publication.
IMO, this clear separation between the Industry, independent reviewers, and a focus on "objective first" reviewing is important if not essential.
3eAudio,
DeleteHi. Thank you for your products. They look amazing. One day I will surely try them and will compare to my class A amplifiers.
Please do not repeat the same mistake other Chinese companies often make: they offer great products, however 30% of them break down within 3-6 months of use.
Can you please explain - how to properly connect a subwoofer to class D amplifiers (stereo amp and two mono amps) on a high level (speaker-level connection)? I heard that it's not as easy as connecting it to class AB amps and that there are some intricacies how to do it without risking to burn down your amps, subwoofer or speakers.
I heard that subwoofers cannot be connected to class D amps on a high level in the same way they can be connected to class A or AB amps.
3eAudio desn't manufacture these amps by them selves, as mostly done in China, they use sub contractors. So the production quality mainly depends on how much 3e is willing to spend on manufacturing. Their European consumer prices are quite high, so compared to Fosi, Ayima and the like, they could theoretically deliver compareable or even better quality. The future will tell. Past experience with 3e did not show they are happy with complaining customers, as you can see in some audio forums, they have a tendency to go silent in such cases.
Deletewhere you see we don't manufacture these amp?
Delete3eAudio,
DeleteHow about my question - how to connect a sub to your class D amp using a high-level connection?
Hi Archimago,
ReplyDeleteIt's been a while since I last visited your page. I was drawn by this little amp which 3eAudio was originally OEM for other Class D amps based on TI3255 and your review came in the right time.
IKudos to another great review , easy to follow in technical assessment without boring someone who are almost idiots to measurements like myself! Also , subjective listening part is also well written as I also tell that you are a musiclover!
Yes, I'm still sticking with my reliable Aiyima A08pro with a few attempts to upgrade like the Fosi ZA3 or the Aiyima A7max but I ended up stay put. I listened to many setups which costs 20 times more of what I havd spent and still don't think it's better or signicantly better to justify any upgrade.
Does these two models have sub out or pre-out? I have a sub to hook up to since I don't see it at the back of A7....
cheers,
E Lo
Hey there E Lo,
DeleteA pleasure sharing!
I think sub out is a good feature which in time should become more common with little amps like this. Alas, these do not have sub outs. I believe you can experiment with something simple like RCA Y-cables to split the input signals to feed the sub R&L in and use the sub's crossover to integrate.
This will take a bit of trial-and-error to figure out the best overlap since there's no high-pass filter to the main speakers. Ideally dust off your measurement microphone and give it a shot with REW!
Hmmm, maybe future little amps can add volume controlled sub pre-out that implements typical AVR 80Hz high-pass (12dB/octave) for the main speakers that can be turned on? That way subs using typical -3dB cutoff at 80Hz, 24dB/octave can be matched easier.
hmmm ...that sounds like a feasible way to try on. thx.
DeleteIn fact, I'm still hanging on to the Aiyima A08pro, this little machine seems to do some magic, compare with many similar TI3255 amps~
Class D keeps getting better and better. I value this progress over various repackaging of class A, A/B, or tube designs.
ReplyDeleteYup, I agree Doug,
DeleteThe fact that sonic fidelity improves at very affordable prices is reason for music lovers and audiophiles to celebrate!
Did you ever found any real or imagined audible differences between the current crop of PFFB and non-PFFB Class D amps at normal volumes? :)
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