Behold... An XLR cable. How exciting. :-)
Although I've discussed speaker cables more recently, it has been ages since I've talked about interconnects. Nothing unusual about that - there's really not much to talk about - they're lengths of wire for low-voltage analogue audio signals! (The exception being AES/EBU digital over XLR cables.)
These days, cables are way past being "mature" products for analogue/digital pure-audio purposes. Of course this doesn't stop companies from trying to differentiate themselves and claiming to have achieved new levels of performance or supposed "significant" improvements in this or that and thus achieving "superior" audio quality.
What I think about "audiophile" cables is no mystery I hope - here's the summary post with various measurements compiled over the years that should cover most questions most might have.
For today's post, let's dive in and talk with some detail about XLR cables and these Monoprice Stage Right Series XLR cables (~US$20/6' length) which have become a standard for me here in the home recently whether for my sound system or for testing. To be clear, this is not a sponsored post and Monoprice did not send me the cables for free. I'll let you know if any product comes through this blog that is not directly purchased or borrowed from friends.
IMO, for audiophiles who uncompromisingly desire the lowest noise levels, the deepest "black background", make sure to go for audio hardware capable of balanced "differential signaling". We've seen the improvement this can make on measurements all the way back to 2013 with the Squeezebox/Logitech Transporter. Balanced outputs commonly are of higher voltage (potentially better signal-to-noise ratio), have better common noise rejection (improved crosstalk, resistance to RF interference), and the XLR connectors are more robust than RCAs.
As you know, US$20 per cable or so (you can see it on sale occasionally) is simply "cheap" for anything in the audiophile world! But for that price, I think these are good cables that audiophiles should keep in mind.
For years, I've been using the Monoprice Premier XLR cables but I have had hassles with these unfortunately. The connectors are bulky and sometimes too bulky for my gear. For example, my RME ADI-2 Pro ADC/DACs (both the Pro FS and Pro FS R BE) don't quite like the tight fit. These will sometimes get stuck in my Emotiva XSP-1 preamp while trying to disengage from the male end of the cable due to the locking mechanism as well.
Thankfully, no problem with the Monoprice Stage Right variant:
Whereas the Premier cable (top) has a hole through the casing for the locking mechanism, the Stage Right below does not. Instead, the cable still inserts with a reassuring click into the XLR socket but the locking notch isn't as deep and less likelihood of the cable getting stuck.
Also, whereas the Premier has screws holding the XLR casing together (old Cannon XLR design), it's very easy on the Stage Right to just hand unscrew the bottom portion, release the strain relief "chuck", and have a look at the wiring if you ever need to check (this is the newer Neutrik design) - this should also help if you ever need to open the connector to release a "stuck" cable, backing the pieces out until you can work on the metal shell from the inside:
Notice that for this cable, we can see a little silver-colored "jumper" between Pin 1 (shield) and the XLR casing pin on both ends. There is controversy out there as to whether connecting the casing ground to the cable Pin 1 is appropriate or not**. Thankfully I have not run into any issues over the years whether with home audio, pro gear, or with testing equipment, but one can imagine gear where chassis/shell potential could be different from the Pin 1 "ground/shield" level, causing a ground loop.
Depending on which company makes the cable, you will see variations whether Pin 1 is strapped to the connector casing. In fact, you can see variations even with these Monoprice Stage Right XLR cables! Check this out:
Recently I received a shipment from Amazon for 2 of these 10' Stage Right XLR cables. While the part number is the same on both bags (P/N: 18673), notice the right one was sourced from China, and the left bag was "Made in Vietnam". There are actually 3 differences I noticed between these:
1. The China-made one was slightly longer by about 2".
2. The China-made one had white lettering on the length of the wire itself (see this in the topmost image). The Vietnam-made one had fainter grey lettering that's much less noticeable. Connectors appear to be exactly the same.
3. There were internal differences! Of no significance, the Vietnam cable had red-colored insulation for Pin 3 (vs. white with the China-made one). More significantly, the Vietnam-made cable did not have the jumper from Pin 1 to shell casing as you can see:
As I said, this is something to be aware of when it comes to XLR cables even though I have never run into a problem over the years. Notice that the pins are indeed gold plated for both cables and the wire gauge does appear to be thicker 16AWG copper as advertised.
Here at the Musings, no review is complete without some measurements, right? :-)
Here you go, a simple loop-back XLR measurement using my RME ADI-2 Pro FS DAC/ADC set at +13dBu output level, using a 24/96 RightMark audio test procedure. Source is my Intel NUC6i5SYH, I used stock switching power supplies all around, no special 120V mains A/C filtering:
It looks pretty good with the braided jacket and the gold-plated XLR connectors look almost identical to the Monoprice Stage Right. It's a very flexible cable, much more so than the Stage Right. The reason I included this was because the wire gauge is thinner, typical of most XLR cables:
"So how do the Stage Right XLR cables sound?" you might ask... "Great", I say! "Transparent".
Seriously folks, it's one thing to describe the subjective sound of an album's production quality, tonality of speakers, distortion-free high fidelity amps, even characteristics of DACs. But for cables that conduct the electrical signal essentially "perfectly" beyond all reasonable limits of human hearing, aren't we as audiophiles way way beyond having fun trying to describe differences? Yet claims of better "bass articulation", more "presence/immediacy", more "detail/transparency/definition", more "dynamic", "smoother", wider/deeper soundstage/"greater presence", "even lower noise", more accurate timbre/harmony/"musicality", "more vigorous toe-tapping" continue to be used all the time with essentially no value IMO in cable reviews.
What's the point? These simply sound like good XLR cables!
Other than truly bizarre cables that purposely distort the signal, I don't think anyone would be shocked by the suggestion that cable reviews are generally a reflection of the reviewer's imagination rather than "documents of fact" with a reliable witness. One could probably learn just as much about the "subjective" quality of a cable using a computer algorithm spitting out sentences using those audiophile clichés.
What's the difference between an XLR cable used as an analog interconnect and the kind needed for connecting digital AES?
ReplyDeleteAt the least, I'd think you can use a cable that's suitable for digital tolerances for analog.
But the analog cable can't be used for AES?
Hi Unknown,
DeleteSimply put - no real difference. You can use them interchangeably and I have done so myself. As I noted in the "**" section, one can follow Benchmark's recommendations to connect the tab/case/shell with Pin 1 for digital AES/EBU when daisy chaining to reduce RF. For digital use then, we can say that the "China version" of this cable would be better than the "Vietnam version".
Remember that for the most part, digital XLR AES/EBU is used in studio more than the home. Here at home the last time I bothered was with my Logitech Transporter and my Behringer digital EQ even though my RME ADI-2 Pro FS (R) can also handle the interface:
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2013/03/measurements-transporter-toslink-vs.html
It worked fine with whatever XLR cable, "digital" or not.
As home audio folks these days, IMO, digital AES/EBU XLR should really be more of a "legacy" interface. For basic digital audio, S/PDIF TosLink/Coaxial are fine. And for hi-res digital - USB, ethernet, and HDMI are much superior for convenience, compatibility, and bandwidth.
I have come across one piece of pro gear that exhibited issues with 75Ω analogue interconnects on the AES/EBU connections. Switched to 110Ω cable and the problems disappeared. Since then we have always specified 110Ω for AES/EBU cable just to be on the safe side: Canare DA206. http://www.canare.com/ProductItemDisplay.aspx?productItemID=66
DeleteThanks Richard,
DeleteThat's a good point I neglected to mention. Spec for AES/EBU digital is 110Ω cable characteristic impedance. So the meticulous audiophile using these for digital purposes should look at getting cables like those Canare DA206, Belden 1696A, and Mogami 3080 types...
More expensive that standard "analog" XLR cables, but not too much more; I see looking around that 10' AES/EBU based on Mogami 3080's can be had for <US$40.
Always had good success with Bluejeans XLR interconnects...well-made, quality materials, and refreshingly devoid of “audiophile” foolishness.
ReplyDeleteVery true Hamster,
DeleteI should give their cables a shot at some point now that it's much easier to get on Amazon without as much hassle with Canadian import fees and transport costs...
Blue Jeans XLR's are primarily the Belden 1800F which is what I use exclusively. I also use the Belden 1313A speaker cable. I have found Markertek to be the best source for these cables. ;)
DeleteI have always specified Canare L-4E6S (“star-quad”), strictly for analogue signal transmission, but the Belden also gets high marks. BJC also can make “mixed” connectors- RCA > XLR, or XLR > RCA, customer specifies pinout.
DeleteThis is interesting, as always! After buying the Emotiva XMC-2 (which has only XLR outputs) last year, I had to buy a whole lot of XLR cables. I started out with some very cheap ones, but as Amazon/Monoprice isn't readily available where I live, I have settled on Cordial cables, a brand that is clearly targetting professionals. To me, it makes great sense now to use the same stuff in my hifi/home theater that professionals use in studios etc, both in terms of brands and products. On the packaging of the Cordial cables, they make the outrageous claim that "cables don't have a sound!" :)
ReplyDeleteHey Freddie,
Delete"Cables don't have a sound!" - the nerve of those guys! There would be no Audiophile Cable Industry if this were the case... :-)
But seriously. Yeah, I agree. If studios and pros in generally don't need $$$$ cables, not sure why I would either!
As a data point, consider Abbey Road Studios. They're known to use Van Damme Blue Series Studio Grade Multicore cables:
https://www.van-damme.com/case-studies/abbey-road-studios/#
You can see them arranged in this picture:
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/abbey-road-inside-the-worlds-most-famous-sound-studio/23/
Price list for Van Dammes:
https://www.vdctrading.com/shop/van-damme-cable/audio/Analogue-Multicore-Audio-Cable/van-damme-blue-series-studio-grade/
A 2-pair multicore (which can be made into 2-channel balanced XLR) is less than £5/metre. Clearly not exotic in price whatsoever. If it's good enough for Abbey Road, it's good enough for my basement. :-)
I have had good luck with Hosa, LiveWire, and more $$ Mogami. Hard for me to tell the diff. There was a cable shoot-out on AnalogPlanet on phono cables and some Hosa cables came in 2nd over some pricier cables. Usually better gear upfront makes more difference. IMHO. On stage and live cables do matter as they are no do=overs. In my studio there is always take 2,3 ....
ReplyDeleteHi Jim,
DeleteGood to hear an inexpensive brand like the Hosa did well on the AnalogPlanet shootout.
Honestly, I've looked/listened to a few of those A/B recordings from Fremer and am a bit concerned about his consistency (or lack of). I remember checking one of the tests at one point and noting quite a few dB difference which really cannot be explained by wires unless truly terrible... More likely than not, differences are explainable by variations in LP playback itself.
Yes and for the test to be properly done the levels I think must be within .1db. If I find them off I try and match them in Sound Forge to not trick myself. He is going to hear things with his over $300K rig I will never hear. At 73 I hear less and less each day. Quite the talk of the new AT-VM cart line and I bought the VMe for $49 and I am pretty impressed. It only tracked the 22 cm/sec band of my Shure Test record where my M97 did 27 very easily. I am going to get the ML stylus and see how that goes. I hear it is a sleeper for a cart and compares to the Ortofon Black very well. One could start at the the AT-VMml and end there I think. More great work by you.
ReplyDeleteHello Arch!
ReplyDeleteYou might find this podcast that I did with Galen Gareis somewhat(?) interesting. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tgi7njiRSM
The cable type that's the hardest for me to distinguish from brand to brand is definitely interconnects. The difference is mostly impossible to hear. Aside from that, my experience is that XLR cables are usually a tad bit better, and often better built as well. With interconnects I always go for a solid brand around $175 as the top price. Speaker cables is another story...
ReplyDeletetrs cable price!
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